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- From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
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- Subject: INFO: Roswell Witness Linkage
- Keywords: Roswell UFO USAF Coverup "Weather Balloon"
- Message-ID: <1991Apr10.021939.24277@bilver.uucp>
- Date: 10 Apr 91 02:19:39 GMT
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- This is an article that was posted on Paranet not long ago
- and germane to the infamous Roswell case a number of years
- ago.
-
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- Message #4515 - INFO.PARANET
- Date : 17-Dec-90 2:11
- From : Michael Corbin
- To : All
- Subject : Roswell Witness Surfaces
-
- Here is an article that was contributed by Sandy Barbre regarding an article
- which appeared in a Springfield, MO newspaper on December 9, 1990.
- ============================================================
- CONTRIBUTED BY: Sandy Barbre
- December 17, 1990
- ============================================================
- The following was taken from a newspaper from Springfield, Missouri,
- dated Sunday, December 9th, 1990. The name of the newspaper I think,
- is the NEWS-LEADER and article is in the section called Ozarks Accent.
-
- -+--------------
-
- TITLED: NOTED EXPERT FINDS ACCOUNT CONVINCING.
- BY: Mike O'Brien
-
- What sets Gerald Anderson apart from the thousands of other
- American's, including scores of Ozarkers, who say they've seen
- UFO's or even insist they've been kidnapped by creatures from
- outer space?
-
- Why are Gerald Anderson's childhood recollections stirring
- international interest among UFO researchers whose reputations
- have been built on healthy skepticism and willingness to
- debunk hoaxes?
-
- Because of little things he has to say and how he says them.
-
- Stanton Friedman, a nuclear physicist who has lectured on more
- than 600 college campuses about UFOs, describes Anderson as "a
- really significant, potentially the most important" witness to
- what both men believe was the aftermath of one of two space
- craft crashes in New Mexico in mid-summer 1947.
-
- Friedman is co-authoring a book based upon several years of
- painstaking investigation into the haunting mystery. He was
- startled, upon meeting Anderson for the first time only a few
- months ago, to hear the Springfieldian echo details of the yet
- to be published research.
-
- "There's no way he could know some of these things unless he
- had been there at the time," Friedman believes.
-
- Example: only days before first talking with Anderson,
- Friedman coaxed a heretofore reluctant New Mexico mortician
- into recounting a run-in he'd had in 1947 with an especially
- unpleasant red-headed captain who was heading up a team
- recovering bodies from a hush-hush aircraft crash. Anderson,
- too, spoke of a red-headed captain with a mean disposition.
- Friedman says the descriptions of the ornery officer provided
- by the two match precisely, although Anderson and the mortician
- never have met.
-
- In sketches of the desert crash scene drawn by Anderson in
- Springfield following a hypnosis, a lonely windmill appears in
- the distance. When Friedman later arranged for Anderson to
- return to New Mexico to pinpoint the long-ago crash site, no
- such windmill could be see on the horizon-- until, almost by
- accident, the windmill wa spotted behind tress that had grown
- up during the 43 years since Anderson was last there.
-
- "I got shivers over that one," says John Carpenter, who has
- extensively debriefed Anderson over the past 4 months and went
- along on Anderson's return trip to New Mexico in October.
-
- Carpenter holds degrees in psychology and psychiatric social
- work from DePauw and Washington universities and trained in
- clinical hypnosis at the Menninger Institute. He's in his
- 12th year of work at a psychiatric hospital facility in
- Springfield.
-
- "When Gerald tells his story, it's not just a story -- it's
- his life he's telling you, intermixed with his feelings and
- his beliefs and all that is Gerald," Carpenter says.
-
- "When someone is spinning a hoax or tale, they only give you
- enough to raise your curiosity. Not Gerald. He gives you
- everything, in detail, much more than you ask him for. He'd
- be setting himself up to be found out if it wasn't true. He's
- so confident, he goes so much further than a hoaxer would ever
- dare."
-
- Carpenter puts great stock in Anderson's recountings under
- hypnosis. "It's what he didn't say that was significant."
- Carpenter says, explaining that despite clever prodding,
- Anderson never committed a hoaxer's mistake of "recalling"
- something that shouldn't be a part of his own memory.
-
- "And when he's under hypnosis, all the bigger, adult words
- drop out when he describes events from his childhood,"
- Carpenter found. "He relates what he was in child-like
- terms."
-
- Carpenter also detected "genuine amazement" when Anderson
- heard what had been dredged from his subconscious memory under
- hypnosis. "The look on his face was priceless when he realized
- he'd produced details he'd forgotten on a conscious level so
- long ago."
-
- Most subtle but perhaps most telling, in Carpenter's view, was
- Anderson's reaction to being accepted as a viable witness to
- an extraordinary encounter with a spacecraft and creatures from
- beyond Earth.
-
- "He was so grateful at being taken seriously. You could see
- the relief and release after all those years, and the great
- hope that other people would take him seriously too, once and
- for all."
-
- Ironically, Friedman points to Gallup Poll results indicating
- that 60 percent of Americans who have college degrees say they
- believe UFOs are real. With such a receptive constituency,
- why would government officials persist in what Friedman calls
- the "Cosmic Watergate" -- the cover-up and denial of the New
- Mexico crashes? Perhaps, some speculate, because it would be
- too embarrassing now to admit that some supposedly made-in-USA
- technologies actually were plagiarized from confiscated
- spacecraft.
-
- Friedman emphasizes that he's not as interested in uncovering
- past misdeeds as he is in encouraging future progress.
-
- "I believe we should have an 'Earthling" orientation rather
- than nationalistic orientation. The easiest way to
- demonstrate the wisdom of this is to prove that life forms
- from other planets are coming here. If we can do that, then
- everyone will be forced to look at our world differently, as a
- part of a galactic neighborhood."
-
- -+-----end.
-
- The second part of the Springfield newspaper, dated December 9th,
- 1990 is as follows:
-
- Titled: Fact or Fantasy? Springfieldian seeks validation of UFO
- encounter 43 years ago.
-
- Written by: Mike O'Brien
-
- ALSO NOTE: the actual newspaper article shows a scene of the UFO
- crash drawn by Gerald Anderson and also a sketch of a creature he
- believes was a visitor from another galaxy.
-
- -+-------------begin story--------------
-
- To a 5-year-old kid from Indianapolis, the mountains and mesas
- and vast scrubland surrounding Albuquerque seemed an alien world.
- "I was in awe" recalls Gerald Anderson of his arrival in New
- Mexico with his family in July 1947. "I was in the wild
- frontier. There were real, live Indians out there."
- Then says Anderson, on his second day in the Southwest he
- bumped into real,live creatures from a truly alien world.
- There were four -- two dead, on dying, one apparently
- uninjured. The creatures were about 4 feet tall, with heads
- disproportionately large for their bodies by human measure and
- almond-shaped, coal black eyes. They huddled in the shadow of
- 50-ft-diameter silver disk - a "flying saucer" that had crashed
- into a low hillside on the rim of what locals call the Plains of
- San Augustin.
- Anderson, a former police chief at Rockaway Beach and Taney
- County deputy sheriff who now works as a security officer in
- Springfield, is adamant about events on the hot midsummer day so
- long ago.
- "I saw them. I even touched one of the creatures. I put my
- hand on their ship. And I wasn't alone - my dad, my uncle, my
- brother and my cousin all saw the same things. And so did a lot
- of other people. But they aren't talking.
- Anderson is talking, publicly, after 43 years of silence.
- Among those listening most intently are some of the foremost
- researchers into unidentified flying object (UFO phenomena.
- These experts say Gerald Anderson appears to be an important link
- in a frustratingly fragmented chain of evidence concerning the
- most famous - or infamous - chapter in UFO annals: the so called
- "Roswell Incident."
- No one denies that "something" happened in July 1947 in
- central New Mexico, cradle of U.S. nuclear and rocket technology.
- However, military authorities insist reports of strange craft in
- the sky and bizarre wreckage on the ground were traced at the time
- to an errant weather balloon and other manmade or natural
- circumstance.
- Nonetheless, over the years, persistent whispered rumors grew
- into published articles and books, even movies, which fanned
- speculation that what actually occurred was a visit by creatures
- from another planet - an intergalactic expedition that turned to
- tragedy on the high desert and then into a massive cover-up in the
- highest circles of the U.S. government.
- Anderson says he was unaware of ongoing fascination and
- controversy over the strange episode from his childhood until one
- evening this past January when he was flipping through channels
- on his television set and stumbled across the popular program
- "Unsolved Mysteries."
- "I wasn't looking for any unsolved mysteries - I have enough
- mysteries in my life that are unsolved, and I don't need any
- more," Anderson jokes. He is a burly, barrel-chested man
- standing 6-4 and carrying a muscular 250-plus pounds, with
- reddish hair and a ruddy complexion creased from easy laughter.
- "But, bingo! On comes this story, and everything was wrong,"
- Anderson recalls of the TV show. On sudden impulse, he dialed an
- 800 phone number that flashed onto the screen. "I guess I figured
- that if people were still interested in this thing, they might as
- well get it straight" is the only explanation he can muster for
- speaking up after years of keeping mostly mum on the matter.
- "These people don't know what they're talking about," Anderson
- told the operator on the other end of the long-distance line.
- "The shape of the craft is totally wrong. 'And how do you know
- that, sir?" she asked. ' I saw it, I was there,' I told her.
- "Whoa!" she said. "Thee are some people who will want to talk to
- you...'"
- Anderson's phone soon was ringing with calls from UFO
- researchers around the country. One in particular, Stanton
- Friedman, a nuclear physicist and popular lecturer who had
- advised the "Unsolved Mysteries" producers, was struck by
- correlations between Anderson's recollections and obscure
- details Friedman uncovered while sleuthing for a book to be
- published next year.
- Friedman, who lives in Canada, contacted John Carpenter, a
- Springfield professional therapist who in his spare time serves as a
- director of investigations for the local chapter of Mutual UFO
- Network, a nationwide organization of UFO researchers. At Friedman's
- request, Carpenter conducted extensive in person interviews of
- Anderson, including sessions under hypnosis.
- The results excited Friedman. "Powerful stuff!" he exclaimed upon
- hearing interview tapes. Friedman arranged airline tickets for
- Anderson and Carpenter to join him in New Mexico to pinpoint the crash
- site.
- Anderson says the flight was his first return to New Mexico in more
- than a quarter-century. After pointing the pilot of a chartered
- helicopter to a spot in the desert 75 air miles southwest of
- Albuquerque, Anderson gazed at a hillside, strewn with boulders the
- size of Volkswagens and dotted with a few gnarled pinion trees, that
- he says he saw in the summer of 1947.....
-
- A NEW HOME
-
- The Anderson family arrived in Albuquerque from Indiana on July 4,
- 1947. they took up temporary residence at the home of one of Gerald's
- uncles, Guy Anderson. Gerald's father, Glen, was about to take a job
- as a master machinist involved in nuclear weapons design at the
- super-secret Sandia base on the outskirts of town.
- The next day, another uncle, Ted, struck up a conversation with
- Gerald's older brother Glen Jr., who was on leave from the Marine
- Corps. Glen Jr. was a rockhound, and his uncle piqued the young
- Marine's enthusiasm with talks of gorgeous stones just waiting to be
- collected in the desert.
- " Ted told my brother, ' I know where there's plenty of moss agate.'
- So we all piled into a 1940 Plymouth - Uncle Ted, my cousin Victor
- (Ted's 8 year old son), my brother, Glen, my dad and myself. We went
- out into this area where the moss agate was supposed to be - followed
- two ruts into the desert, bounced along out there for a while, and
- ended up on top of a ridgeline. We parked the car and started to walk
- down an arroyo (gully) and dry creek bed and out onto the plains.
-
-
- A STRANGE DISCOVERY
-
- "But we came around a corner and right there in front of us stuck
- into the side of this hill, was a silver disc. There were some
- remarks like"There's a crash up here! Something's crashed up here! And
- then someone saying 'That's a goddamn spaceship!"
- "We all went up there to it. There were three creatures, three
- bodies, lying on the ground underneath this thing in the shade. Two
- weren't moving and the third one obviously was having trouble
- breathing, like when you have broken ribs. There was a fourth one
- next to it, sitting there on the ground. There wasn't a thing wrong
- with it, and it apparently had been giving first aid to the others.
- Anderson animatedly acts out the fourth creature's reaction when
- the family members approached. "It recoiled in fear, like it thought
- we were going to attack it," anderson recounts, covering his face with
- crossed arms. The adults tried to repeatedly to communicate with the
- frightened creature, Anderson says, but there was no audible response
- to greetings spoken in English and Spanish.
- A few minutes after the Anderson clan happened upon the bizarre
- scene, six other people arrived - five college students and their
- teacher. They'd been working on an archaeological dig around cliff
- dwellings a few miles away and had decided to hike over after seeing
- what they thought was a firey meteor crashing the night before. The
- professor, a Dr. Buskirk, tried several foreign languages in
- unsuccessful attempts to coax a verbal response from the creature,
- Anderson says.
- The sun had climbed to a midday peak by this time and recalls
- anderson, "to a kid from Indiana, it was hot brother, let me tell
- you." He chugged a chocolate flavored soft drink an hour earlier and
- the sweet soda pop was churning uncomfortably in his stomach. so he
- sought shelter in the shadow of the spacecraft.
- "It was 115 (degrees) out there that day. But around the craft,
- when you got close to it, it was cold. When you touched the metal, it
- felt just like it came out of a freezer."
-
- SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT
-
- Anderson also touched one of the creatures lying motionless on the
- ground - and it, too was cold. In his child's mind, he had thought the
- figures looked like dolls. But when he felt the cold skin, " I knew
- something wasn't quite right. Yuck!.
- Anderson says he ran to the crest of a nearby knoll to take stock. A
- pickup truck arrived on the ridge, and a fellow whom researchers believe
- was a civil engineer named Barney Barnett joined the curious audience. "I
- remember thinking he looked like Harry Truman. In 1947, every kid knew
- what Harry Truman looked like," Anderson says.
- After a few minutes, Anderson summoned the courage to again creep close
- to the strange saucer. It was then more chilling than the surface of the
- craft of the skin of the corpse; The upright creature turned and looked
- right at me and it was like he was inside my head - as if he was doing my
- thinking, as if his thoughts were in my head."
- Anderson remembers a mental sensation of falling and tumbling
- end-over-end. "I felt that thing's fear, felt its depression, felt its
- loneliness. I relived the crash. I know the terror it went through. That
- one look told me everything that quickly," he says with a snap of his
- fingers.
-
- Other things began happening quickly about this time, Anderson says. A
- contingent of armed soldiers suddenly appeared. The creature, which had
- calmed down after its initial fright, "went crazy" at the sight of the
- soldiers. Thinking back on the creature's plight today brings on the
- "awfulest, horrible feeling," Anderson says.
- "His situation was hopeless. He knew it. He'd just lived through a
- nightmare that most of us wouldn't be able to psychologically stand. He'd
- watched two of his crew, his friends or maybe even his family die. He's
- watching another one die. He knows there's no chance of rescue, because the
- military is here and his people aren't going to be able to get him.
- "God only knows how far away from home he was, and he knew he was never
- going to see - if they have loved ones - his loved ones again. He was
- totally alone on a hostile planet, and the only people who where showing
- him kindness were being run off by the military at weapon-point.
- "As a kid, I was aware of what being afraid of the dark was like., and
- the feeling I got from him was that feeling multiplied a million times. It
- was scary. It was terrifying.
-
-
- SOLDIERS ON THE SCENE
-
- Anderson says he lost sight of the creature as the soldiers swarmed over
- the site. The civilians were brusquely shoved from the craft. Anderson
- remembers shouts and threats. His uncle Ted threw a punch at one of
- the GIs. "Things got very tense, very dangerous," Anderson says.
- "The soldiers ushered us out of there very unceremoniously. Their
- attitude, to describe it at best, was uncivilized."
- Anderson has an especially vivid memory of a tough-talking red
- haired Army captain and an equally gruff black sergeant. "They told
- my dad and my uncle, who also worked at Sandia, that if they were ever
- to divulge anything about this - it was a secret military aircraft,
- they said - then us kids would be taken away and they'd never see us
- again." It seems an outrageous threat in hindsight, Anderson
- concedes. But at the time, he reminds, "These people had machine guns
- and you listened to what they said."
- Another recollection strikes Anderson as odd today: The soldiers
- didn't appear surprised about the otherwordly craft and creatures.
- they didn't gawk, slack-jawed and awe-struck as the Andersons had done.
- "The soldiers weren't saying, 'Gee, look at that!" They were very
- cognizant of what they were looking at. They knew what it was.
- And it soon became apparent, Anderson says, that the Army knew what
- it wanted to do with the find. "there was a battalion of military, a
- real invasion force, when we got back up on the hilltop. There were
- trucks, there were airplanes - they had the road blocked off and they
- were landing on it. They had radio communications gear set up. There
- were ambulances, and more soldiers with weapons."
- In the days that followed, all of New Mexico was abuzz with talk of
- strange lights in the sky, strange echos on radar, strange doings in
- the desert. On July 7, new reports told of remnants of an
- unidentified aircraft found by a rancher near the town of Roswell,
- N.M. about 150 miles east of the hillside where the Anderson's stumbled
- upon the saucer.
- Although several witnesses said it was like nothing they'd ever
- seen before, military officers insisted the metallic pieces came from
- an ordinary weather balloon.....
-
- A WEATHER BALLOON?
-
- Forty three years later, Anderson smiles wryly when reminded of the
- Army's pronouncement, "A lot of people wondered why, if it was just a
- weather balloon, the military put the pieces under armed guard and flew
- them in a B-29 to Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio," he observes.
- Anderson believes the wreckage scattered near Roswell and the barely
- damaged saucer on the Plains of San Augustin are connected. "There was a
- gash in the side of the disc we saw, like it had been crushed in," he says.
- "The contour of the craft would fit into that gash perfectly - like another
- one of these things had hit it. I think two of these discs had a mid-air
- collision. One exploded and feel in pieces near Roswell, and the other
- crash-landed where we found it.
- With all evidence confiscated and the military steadfastly sticking
- by the weather balloon explanation, the story faded from the news by July's
- end. And Gerald Anderson says he tucked away the memory as he grew into
- manhood. "I learned you just don't go up to the average person on the
- street and say, "Damn, know what I saw?" The guy will go, "Get away from
- me, fool! Are you crazy?" In later life, he didn't mention it even to his
- wife until a few years after their marriage.
- Anderson joined the Navy in the late 1950s and served a dozen years in
- posts around the globe. He lived for a few years in Colorado, working as a
- paramedic and working toward a college degree in microbiology. In 1979, he
- moved to Missouri to better raise his daughter away from what he terms the
- "druggy" atmosphere of Denver. In addition to his law enforcement posts,
- Anderson has worked for two southwest Missouri trucking firms as a driver
- and instructor.
- Anderson also has been active in the Episcopal Church. He recently was
- elected to the vestry at Ascension Episcopal in Springfield and is studying
- toward becoming a deacon. A gold crucifix - a cross complete with a
- figure of the martyred Christ affixed to it - suspended from a chain around
- Anderson's neck is testimony to his faith.
-
-
- NO CONFLICT IN BELIEFS
-
- Although he concedes his account might make some fellow churchgoers
- uncomfortable, Anderson sees no conflict between what he saw with his eyes
- and what he believes in his heart: "When you're talking about the concept
- of God, you have to be talking in the context of a universal situations, a
- deity that built the whole universe. And why should we assume that this
- speck of sand in the backwater of space would be the only place that an
- all-perfect, almighty God could create life?"
- In fact, Anderson says he "wouldn't be one bit surprised to find out
- that, wherever this creature came from, there they have a very strong
- concept of a supreme being. Because of my contact with the creature showed
- a high degree of civilized sophistication, gentleness, compassion - all of
- the things we hold as ideals."
- Of the five anderson men who ventured into the desert that day in 1947,
- only Gerald is still alive. Age, illness and accidents claimed the other
- four in recent years. But not only andersons were at the scene, Gerald
- says, and he hopes his decision to come forth, albeit belated, will
- encourage others to tell what they know and spur official revelations about
- the captured craft and creatures.
- "I want to see the government stand up and say, 'Look, we're not alone
- in the universe.
- Let's make a 'Star Trek' really happen. Let's do go out there and explore
- the universe. That may be our only salvation. Because with what's doing to
- this Earth, we're not going to make it much past the year 2000."
-
- -+-----end of story--------------
-
- EOF
-
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